Friday, November 24, 2006

Miss J's supporters sorry to see her leave YTF

Here are some e-mails and public postings I got (before they removed pub postings from my supporters). I'll need to remove some names (the ones from the private e-mails to me) simply because once the mods know someone is a 'supporter' of mine, they can ban them.Miss J's supporters have been called "toadies" by the Moderator:The term "toadie" is more fit to Marianne and bailey for supressing information because the corporate entity tells them to do that. A "todie" is a person that is CONTROLLED by another; like Marianne and Bailey are CONTROLLED by the entity. A "todie" is not an INDEPENDANT person agreeing with me or supporting my efforts. -----------------------------------------------------------------------I started having plastic surgery about nine yrs ago, I badly badly needed my nose done. I went to a local doctor in town who badly performed my surgery fast forward six years and aside from getting more needless and dangerous work from surgeons who had their own best interests at heart I was no further in my wish to at least be considered "pretty" At that point I had had over 5 surgeries comprising 10 different procedures; some left me looking so strange that at one point I looked like I had been born with a cleft lip. My probem wasn't plastic surgery obsession nor was it BDD. My problem was not understanding the "science" behind what makes a person's face beautiful. Now here I was I a naive 24 yr old girl making a good living; making me instant prey for the greedier plastic surgeons. I was also being MISLEAD by these doctors into believing that the procedures they were suggesting were going to make me more attractive: The majority of the surgeries being offered had nothing to do with creating golden ratios or any other measuring devices we have available today. When I came to this site, I gained more than insight into procedures.I gained a BRIDGE named Miss J. She was a person not invested in her own financial gain, rather she TRULY loved this medical field and even attended PS seminars and met many of the big names doctors of today. She has so fully integreted herself into the PS world that many new surgeons that she meets, think that she is also a plastic surgeon. So once I found miss J I practically begged her to morph me privately and she agreed only after a long disclaimer of this not being her business and that it was more "fun " for her than anything. I had surgery with a doctor following her morphs and analysis (which were done scientifically and artistically) and wouldn't you know-I looked better than her morph at the end. Many times in the past I have posted my pics and been accosted privately with people asking me how to get a look and I always refer them to Miss J; who is only compensated for the use of her internet provider and other computer related morphing devices, Had I not had her guidance I would still be getting procedure after procedure and going to different plastic surgeons, still looking for that brass ring. Miss J is not making this board her personal way to profit and she never solicits business. People read her incredibly educated and insightful posts and guess what? they get excited that this women who knows so much might be able to offer them REAL guidance and the posibilty of getting GOOD results from their procedures. I feel so fortunate to have had her help and worry for those that are just entering this inevitable merry-go-round of procedures TRYING to find that one key that unlocks their beauty.LK------------------------------------------------


By the way I think that the corporate owner of the board taking the position that Miss J is running a lucrative morphing business by soliciting people on the board is nonsense. I know Miss J personally and know this not to be true. She is willing to do free work if the poster is willing to have her work posted. She will do morphing privately and will spend many hours on her analysis and will answer endless questions. She just has a passion for this! I have recommended that she get her own website to do morphing for cosmetic patients because I think she could be very successful at it but she doesn't have the resources necessary right now to launch herself. I think that many posters have benefited from Miss J's insight and morphs. carol------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Hi Carol,I agree with you about Miss J. She has helped so many ( including me) with these morphs and I am saddened to see the new board owner is feeling this way about her.Jade---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------




Hi Miss, j it's E--- from the board. I just read a post and the other posts about you being banned. I just want to tell you that i feel this is bullshit and it 100 percent wrong what they did to. You were 90 percent of the knowledge on that board and without you i beleive the board will be going downhill faster than louie anderson on a shopping cart going downhill. Is there any chance you will be jumping ship to another board? please let me know because i woudl join that board in a heartbeat.Good luck E---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------




forwarded to me because person writing it did not know my e-mail:Hi L----> > It was very nice of you to stand up for Miss J, I> hope she is doing fine, I was not surprised of what> happened, she is very informative and have that> unique artistic views that few people actually have> (may be plastic surgeons should not be accepted to> that specialty of they do not have certain level of> the artistic quality or whatever, lol)> I like you tell her to fight it and come back to> this board, even if they ban her, she needs to do it> differently this time, she enjoyed what she used to> do, if she does have the time, she SHOULD run her> own board, too bad that all the qualities she have> are wasted on these selfish boards> I would love it if she would morph me soon and of> course I will compensate her, it's just stupid what> they talk about, they see her do it for free, and> once people email her personally, and compensate her> for her time, they get mad, they are trying to paint> her in away so they look innocent and pure, that's> is bad and childish, I think Miss J is smarter than> this and she could play the game with them at their> own immature terms and still enjoy it :)> Say hi to her> L------------------------------------------------------------------


forwarded to me because the person writing it did not know my e-mail.Hey J---Sorry to contact you, but the board isn't letting me log in at the moment(have no idea why- administrators are working on it). I wanted to put myemail up also so Miss J would know that I want to stay in contact with her(if she is so inclined).They ripped down all of the posts that had Miss J's email box open. So theyhave left us with no way to contact her.If you hear that she is starting a new forum or letting people contact herfor morph info, could you let me know? Thanks.Jen------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------




I'm not lashing out at the moderators because I understand the whole "don't» shoot the messenger" thing. They are merely the mouthpieces for the "boss".» I DO find it very distasteful and even sleazy that THEY would approach Miss» J. about getting a cut of her profits. I also find it very demeaning to» refer to Miss J.'s morphs as "a few clicks of a mouse and some» electricity". Umm...hello?? It's a heck of alot more than that. When» someone CHOOSES to have her do a morph, they are benefiting from her huge» breadth of knowledge about plastic surgery. Sure, alot of people can play» around with Photoshop or some other program, but that doesn't mean they» are doing it with a trained eye and providing thoughtful, detailed» analysis. I really don't recall Miss J. "hanging a shingle" in this forum» and openly soliciting people. The "boss" says that anyone is free to» contact her and request her services OFF this board. Haven't alot of» people been doing it that way all along!? In other words, Miss J. is free» to morph people for free on this board for the benefit of everyone, but if» someone contacts her privately via email for her services, it's OK as long» as no one else knows? This is the part that's somewhat murky to me. » » Alexis----------------------------------------





I have no agenda with Miss J. I have never used her services or needed her» advice personally....but she has opened my eyes in a way that no one has» before. I feel extreemly grateful from all that I have learned from her. Sharon----------------------------------------------------------




A letter to the company by a poster writing about me:Just a note to let you know how disappointed I am that you choose to ban the most knowledgeable poster this forum has. I have visited for several years and can not tell you how much I have learned from Miss J. Her posts are the ones I would always make a point to read. I have been amazed that she would kindly consider giving so much of her time and knowledge. Her morphs are the best I have ever seen. The writing and suggestions she provided were very well written and more importantly easy for a simple lay person to understand.Undertaking something as personal and daunting as seeking cosmetic surgery, and finding her unusual mix of artistry, knowledge of the top doctors, types of different procedures, implants, fillers, etc is quite unique and her ability to individualize what one might need to get the best results without any attachment to a doctor or product should be welcomed and encouraged.Her contribution to this board over these years have been priceless. If someone was entitled to compensation it is MISS J that YOU should have been compensating to retain her as a member. I could always depend on her posts to get real information. Not just opinion or fluff. I can get useless information from the many other boards online. Miss J was what made this forum stand out among the others. Miss J was your "franchise". With her absence it becomes just like the other boards. Bland.I'm also disgusted that you would ban Miss J for privately making a few dollars for her hours of time she would spend doing her artistic work and not have any problem with SusanRN on the beauty board openly soliciting hundreds of dollars worth of products ... oh, unless you got to her and are already taking your 10%. Money talks. Nobody walks.I am so happy that I was able to cross paths with Miss J and get a morph done in private by her. It has been worth many times over the measly amount that I sent to Miss J. I am very sorry to see her gone. Perhaps you might approach her with a plan to compensate her for morph work as a value added service to YTF.Sincerely,Sa--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




Just returned from seeing the neuro doc in NY (Friday)relative to nerve damage. He moved the chin implant in order to relieve the pain and numbness in face, lip, teethe...my chin/jaw looks more symmetrical. He stated that he did not like the make/model (sounds like a used car) and preferred to take it out. I asked if he could replace...I also asked if he delt with using custom made implants, such as those made by Implantech. These implants are made via use of CT in order to work out any/all asymmetries in the chin/jaw line.....Thanks Miss J for your input relative to nerve information in previous post about nerve damage, as the nerve doc was suprised by my understanding of terms... library cat.


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Hi Miss J,
I am sooo happy to have found you! I would love to give you a huge cyber hug. You are right about the other site not wanting you there because of your (sound & valid) opinions. It was never about the morphs. I kept asking about the other lady who sells thousands of dollars of beauty products. Well Bailey basically told me to piss off if I wasnt happy & quote `this is NOT a democracy`. Now I understand why they couldnt care less about a lady selling products, she wasnt rocking their real boat, ie selling ps & finance.

Well, Im glad to see you are back stronger than ever. My post about you got deleted today, no surprise hey! I mentioned that you were still around even if we werent allowed to mention your name. I likened the situation to the Harry Potter story where the villian is so evil, no one can even bare to say his name. Well on the site, it wont even let you write your name in the text!!!! Your name is illegal!!!

Well, the joke is on them bacause I am observing that the subject matter has really dried up & has become very generic. There is no hard info there, only people giving opinions on things like looks & boyfriends & feelings etc. There is nothing with teeth or substance.....dare I say it....it is rather boring. I cant help but feel that everyone there is being watched like in Big Brother. I wont be voting there with my input anymore thats for sure.

And they certainly lost a huge chunk of goodwill with you gone. No doubt they miscalculated your value & probably took the success of the board at face value. They didnt factor in that you were a key player!

Anyway, all the best, you deserve it,

Sharo
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Sorry to hear this is happening to you , that is just so rediculous . You do nothing but help people on there. i think they are to promote the surgeons that advertise on that board, they pay $$$ for that. Otherwise the people who own that board feel that they wouldn`t get drs. to advertise if people are suggesting them to see other drs. Also , it`s a jeolousy thing, you know far more than anyone on that board & they don`t want anyone comming in and stealling their thunder. the proactive info sou nds great, i would move forward with that no matter what. Misss j , you have done nothing but only help people& we all look for you on that board. If you decide not to go on any more , i hope we can stay in touch. b------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------